Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Dr. MoneyBags Lectures The Nation

Mayor Michael "Moneybags" Bloomberg thinks he knows everything. He has already lectured the nation about eduction reform, gun control and Mideast policy. Now he's lecturing Americans on health.

I kinda think he ought to shut up and mind his own business. Anybody as fat-assed as Mayor Moneybags really ought not to be lecturing others about weight loss and health, you know?

BTW, he also likes Preznut Bush's health care proposal which will amount to a tax increase on workers who are lucky enough to have employee-provided health care plans. New York City employees already know the mayor hates employee-provided health care plans since he is doing everything he possibly can to undermine the cit employee health care plans. So take what he says about health care plans with a grain of salt. For Mayor Moneybags, any health care plan that doesn't enrich his wealthy cronies in the insurance business and doesn't bilk working Americans out of hard-earned money isn't a good plan.

Comments:
reality, you really should learn a few business basics. The lack of financial knowledge demonstrated by most liberals is a big problem. At its worst, this dearth of understanding leads to the wide-spread myth that money grows on trees.

You wrote:

"BTW, he also likes Preznut Bush's health care proposal which will amount to a tax increase on workers who are lucky enough to have EMPLOYEE-provided health care plans."

First, the insanely generous healthcare plans to which you refer are employER-provided plans. The employees are the beneficiaries, not the providers.

Second, under the Bush plan, employer-sponsored policies that are excessively generous, like those at Goldman Sachs, will either get trimmed back a little or the beneficiaries will pay a tax on a portion of the benefits.

The tax will generate revenue that will expand coverage for people with little or no coverage.

Meanwhile, self-employed people will finally receive the right to deduct the premiums they pay for healthcare policies from their revenue, trimming the final cost the same way corporations do now.


You wrote:

"New York City employees already know the mayor hates employee-provided health care plans since he is doing everything he possibly can to undermine the cit employee health care plans."

You're stumbling over that EMPLOYEE/EMPLOYER problem again.

In general, city employees enjoy healthcare coverage at Rolls-Royce levels. These high-priced plans are wasteful because when the patient's out-of-pocket expense is low or zero for every visit to the doctor, patients go to the doctor far more than is truly necessary. The tax-payers get screwed.
 
reality, you wrote:

"For Mayor Moneybags, any health care plan that doesn't enrich his wealthy cronies in the insurance business and doesn't bilk working Americans out of hard-earned money isn't a good plan."

Do you have the slightest idea how insurance companies work? It's obvious you don't. Clearly, you do think money grows on trees, especially money that pays medical bills.

Just to give you a little hint -- company-sponsored insurance plans add up to free money for anyone who sees doctors on a regular basis. This is especially true for teachers, who enjoy what may be one of the most generous plans in town.

Your comments on financial matters are so far out in left field that those with a little knowledge of these matters can do no more than shake their heads after reading your uninformed rants.
 
Well, it's always nice to hear Mayor Moneybags talk up issues like that. Pretty soon he may be as unpopular as the prez, and people may catch on that his school "reforms" are all smoke and mirrors.

And if that happens, Mayor Mike's political future will be as DOA as President Bush's preposterous health care proposal.
 
Good one RBE
 
I dunno if Bloomie's "reforms" have run their course just yet. Seems like the Congress is set to take part of his reform model and run it nation-wide as part of an expansion of NCLB. Of course, Bloomie and Gates were funding the committee that made these recommendations, so I can see wh ythey would rubber stamp his Ed model as the one to use.
 
Even the NY Times has finally decided to blow the whistle on the 9/11 scammers seeking free money from taxpayers for ailments with no connection to the attack on the World Trade Center.

The phony "hero" Borja has been revealed as a liar and a scammer. Of course he took in a lot of suckers along the way.

Why did it take so long for reporters to check his employment log?

He didn't get anywhere near Ground Zero until more than three months after 9/11. He worked there only about a week.

He smoked a pack of cigarets a day for years.

But he wants free money from tax payers.

Too bad.

How many more scammers are there among the pool of people who claim they were exposed to dangerous effluents following the attack?

How many people claiming respiratory problems related to 9/11 are or were smokers?
 
One scammer or media-created "hero" a la Jessica Lynch does not delegitimize every claim by Ground Zero workers who have been sickened by the conditions down at Ground Zero.

That you would smear every Ground Zero worker as a potential scammer and every health claim by a Ground Zero worker as bullshit says more about your own lack of decency, patriotism and humanity than it says about the people or the claims.

I bet you think every Iraq war vet suffering psychological trauma is a bullshit artist and/or scammer looking for a free ride from the federal gov't too.
 
ordreazlity, you wrote:

"One scammer or media-created "hero" a la Jessica Lynch does not delegitimize every claim by Ground Zero workers who have been sickened by the conditions down at Ground Zero."

Apparently your sense of logic does not allow you to see the difference between a discrete event -- an invidual act such as shooting an enemy soldier -- and the outcome of exposing a group of people to various chemicals over indeterminate periods of time.

An act of heroism, or a phony claim about an act of heroism is contingent on nothing but an event having occurred at a specific moment.

There is a long history in the military of embellishing tales of combat bravery. Nevertheless, few people receive the Medal of Honor, but many receive Purple Hearts.

But detecting health problems in a group whose members each individually "claim" they were exposed to various toxins over periods of time is an entirely different problem.

People who never smoked a single cigarette do get lung cancer. It's very rare, but it happens. It happened to a distant relative of mine.

Meanwhile, people who smoke contract many many respiratory problems and other health problems BECAUSE they smoke and reduced their body's ability to ward off illness.

You have absolutely no idea what factors have contributed to the health problems of the people who were exposed to the air at Ground Zero.

Hey. Maybe I'll be next. I was downtown that day and spent all afternoon dodging cops and security personnel so I could get as close as possible to the World Trade Center site. My office had been on the 47th Floor of Tower One, though I wasn't working there that day.

You wrote:

"That you would smear every Ground Zero worker as a potential scammer and every health claim by a Ground Zero worker as bullshit says more about your own lack of decency, patriotism and humanity than it says about the people or the claims."

I see. And you believe every homeless guy who tells you he's panhandling to get a little money for food.

You're rather naive to think people won't stick their hands out for free money when there is no penalty for lying. Anyone who wants to claim he/she was downtown on 9/11 and at any time after that can file a health claim. The worst that can happen is a rejection of the claim. No one will find themselves in hot water for lying. Hence, it is a certainty that thousands and thousands of people will lie to obtain free health benefits.

The 9/11 health scam is a giveaway orchestrated by vote-crazy politicians who have no compunction about asking tax-payers to cough up billions to pay for illnesses that more than likely have no connection to 9/11.

You wrote:
"I bet you think every Iraq war vet suffering psychological trauma is a bullshit artist and/or scammer looking for a free ride from the federal gov't too."

You can be sure many of them will make miraculous recoveries as soon as they return to the US.

Meanwhile, the military benefits for treating psychological trauma are not generous. Thus, no one is motivated by the idea of a few free trips to a psychiatrist. The goal of lying about one's mental state in a combat zone is staying alive. Perfectly understandable. But whether someone is coming unglued or is faking it, well, that's a tough call.
 
I never said there shouldn't be a penalty for scamming or faking a Ground Zero illness. What I said is because some people will scam or fake it doesn't mean other people aren't legitimately afflicted with the illness.
 
reality, you wrote:

"I never said there shouldn't be a penalty for scamming or faking a Ground Zero illness."

But there are NO penalties for seeking free medical care for medical ailments with no connection to Ground Zero. There are penalties for defrauding the government and other donors of money given to help the truly injured. In fact, I was disappointed by the high number of people who tried to obtain funds under false pretenses.

You added:

"What I said is because some people will scam or fake it doesn't mean other people aren't legitimately afflicted with the illness."

So far there is NO evidence anyone has been harmed by exposure to the air at Ground Zero. NO tests have PROVEN anything beyond the POSSIBILITY that some people MIGHT have lost a little lung capacity from breathing the Ground Zero air.

But you're ready to force tax-payers to cough up billions of dollars to people whose problems cannot be linked to the air they breathed for a couple of months in 2001. Like Borja, an outright liar who spent only a week arond the Pile long after the fire was out.

On 9/11 the air downtown was filled with a fine dust that was hanging motionless like the lightest driest snow in the world. It covered downtown like fog and everyone breathing it knew they were sucking in something that probably wasn't good for the lungs.

But that floury dust settled to the ground in about 24 hours ending the major respiratory risk for most people in the area.

The respiratory problems claimed by almost everyone who worked at Ground Zero are based on junk science. This isn't the first time people have claimed to have suffered from exposure to something that has never been linked to an actual ailment. It won't be the last time.
 
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