reality-based educator

Well...that put the kabosh on what was shaping up to be a pleasant evening! Oh wait...we're making connection to the GOP, right? Then...never mind.
 

RBE

Want to make a wager that the Republicans don’t loose either house of the congress?
 

Why, arch? Did you get sent the Diebold source code last week too?
 

I should have added that I don't think Dems will retake the Senate and have said so the whole time. Probably a 4 or 5 seat pick-up, although if Steele wins in MD, take 1 seat away from Dems. As for the House, when even Novak thinks Dems will win 18-25 seats, I start to believe Dems are going to take 18-25 seats. But then again, there is always that Diebold source code floating around, so who knows?
 

RBE

Sure. It has to be the source code and not the voters. I love it when libs drink their own Kool-Aid. Hahahahaha.
 

From IDG News Service, 10/20/06

"On Wednesday, former Maryland state legislator Cheryl C. Kagan was anonymously given disks containing source code to Diebold's BallotStation and GEMS (Global Election Management System) tabulation software used in the 2004 elections. Kagan, a well-known critic of electronic voting, is Executive Director of the Carl M. Freeman Foundation, a philanthropic organization based in Olney, Maryland.

The disks were created and distributed by two federal voting machine testing labs run by Ciber Inc. and Wyle Laboratories Inc. They had been testing systems on behalf of the state of Maryland, Diebold said in a statement.

This is not the first time that Diebold source code has been leaked. In early 2003, Diebold critic Bev Harris uncovered similar source code while conducting research using Google Inc.'s search engine.

Soon after, researchers at Johns Hopkins University and Rice University published a damning critique of Diebold's products, based on an analysis of the software.

They found, for example, that it would be easy to program a counterfeit voting card to work with the machines and then use it to cast multiple votes inside the voting booth.

Diebold says it has since introduced security enhancements to its products, but the fact that the company's sensitive source code has again leaked out is not a good sign, according to Avi Rubin, a computer science professor with Johns Hopkins and one of the authors of the 2003 report."
 

RBE

The question remains: Has anyone used said source code to manipulate an election?

Let me ask you a question. You like myself probably support the idea of a "paper trail", no? Would you also be willing to support valid photo i.d. provided said i.d. was provided at no cost to the voter? Also, would you support using said "paper trail" to remove invalid/illegal votes before the vote was tallied?
 

Arch,

I'll bet you whatever you want that the Dems take the House.

PT
 

Arch - yes to the all the questions in your second paragraph.

As for the first question, do we know if anyone has ever used the source code to manipulate an election? Without a paper trail, it's hard to tell. But election results that contradict exit polls outside the historical norm in states with electronic voting machines without paper trails makes one suspicious. Not certain by any means, but certainly suspicious.
 

RBE

I'm glad you support those notions, it shows a true desire for electoral legitimacy, and that you honor the will of the people. If only more Left v. Right types could all arrive at a similar conclusion.

So the breach of the norm cant be in how the "exit-polls" are conducted?
 

PT

What ever I want? Unfortunately there is nothing I can think of to wager you with, but there is something I want from RBE. However, if the Republicans retain the House I would like you to acknowledge a desire on the part of the polling organizations to affect voter attitudes.